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Can I move internal out of bounds posts?

It’s not just on the boundaries that you can face out of bounds – they can frame holes on the course too. But are the posts always untouchable? Our Rules of Golf guru takes a look

 

I’m not a big fan of internal out of bounds. I know why they are there – it’s often for safety and that’s always paramount – but it always feels to me that they just add to the confusion for golfers. In a game that’s got plenty of complications, why have more?

So I felt for Neil Hardwick when he sent me this email: “I was playing a hole and removed the out of bounds post when playing a hole where the OOB line and posts were not in play. Can I do this?

“I am aware when playing a hole where the OOB line and posts are in play that cannot be done but I am unsure when it’s not in play.

“I also believe that now if I did remove the post when OOB is in play but put it back before playing the shot there is no penalty, is that correct?”

That’s a lot of questions, Neil! But I think I can help you with all of them…

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Can I move internal out of bounds markers?

Out of bounds stakes are boundary objects and you can’t move them or generally get free relief from them. If you do shift them, and then hit your shot, add two penalty strokes to your score.

Neil is also right that if you have made that unfortunate faux pas, Rule 8.1c (1) does allow you to replace the boundary object that had been removed, or put it back into its original position if it’s been shifted into another position, to restore the original conditions and escape any penalty.

Be warned, though. You’ve got to use both the original stake – don’t go trying to replace it with another, you won’t get away with it.

But what about if it’s internal out of bounds? If you can’t move the markers when you’re playing the hole that it applies to, what happens if they get in the way while you’re playing a hole where OOB isn’t in force?

Model Local Rule A-4 comes up trumps here. It tells committees to specify the hole, the specific location, and then define it as out of bounds.

And it reveals that while those stakes are boundary objects during the play of that specific hole, they are “immovable obstructions” for all other holes.

So, while the answer to Neil’s question is still, ‘no, you can’t move them’ – they are immovable after all – you would be able to claim free relief from them as an abnormal course condition using Rule 16.1.

That would allow you to find the nearest point of complete relief, and drop in a one-club relief area, for interference from lie, stance, or area of intended swing. But not line of play. If the post is just distracting you, try to put it out of your mind and carry on.

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Steve Carroll

Steve Carroll

A journalist for 25 years, Steve has been immersed in club golf for almost as long. A former club captain, he has passed the Level 3 Rules of Golf exam with distinction having attended the R&A's prestigious Tournament Administrators and Referees Seminar.

Steve has officiated at a host of high-profile tournaments, including Open Regional Qualifying, PGA Fourball Championship, English Men's Senior Amateur, and the North of England Amateur Championship. In 2023, he made his international debut as part of the team that refereed England vs Switzerland U16 girls.

A part of NCG's Top 100s panel, Steve has a particular love of links golf and is frantically trying to restore his single-figure handicap. He currently floats at around 11.

Steve plays at Close House, in Newcastle, and York GC, where he is a member of the club's matches and competitions committee and referees the annual 36-hole scratch York Rose Bowl.

Having studied history at Newcastle University, he became a journalist having passed his NTCJ exams at Darlington College of Technology.

What's in Steve's bag: TaylorMade Stealth 2 driver, 3-wood, and hybrids; TaylorMade Stealth 2 irons; TaylorMade Hi-Toe, Ping ChipR, Sik Putter.

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