It's the bitter topic dividing golf. So what do you think? Should LIV bypass the rules and be granted OWGR status? Alex Perry and George Cooper have their say

It’s hostile. It’s messy. And it’s dividing the golf world. LIV Golf’s quest for Official World Golf Ranking points is continuing to take turn after turn with Greg Norman intensifying his efforts to have his league recognised.

Already we’ve seen a cheeky ploy shut down by the OWGR just when Norman thought he’d bypassed the conundrum by joining with the MENA Tour.

LIV’s players have also joined the rally, signing a letter urging the OWGR to grant them accreditation. This is despite the Saudi Arabia-funded series continuing to fall short on several elements in the organisation’s criteria.

Oh, and Norman’s men are so united in the cause that even Brooks Koepka and Bryson DeChambeau have put their differences aside to become best friends. What a time.

But with all that being said, should LIV Golf be given OWGR points? Here’s what two of our writers had to say on The Slam podcast amid the turmoil.

‘LIV have decided on this Trumpian tactic’

You can’t just start up a new tour and get world rankings, writes Alex Perry. We’ve got the NCG Top 100s Tour, we’re not gonna say we deserve world ranking points for a bunch of hackers knocking it around Ganton.

There’s a process for all of this. You can’t start up a football club and go, ‘Ooh, I fancy being in the Premier League. Cheers.’ That’s not how it works. There’s always a process for these things.

In LIV’s case, they’ve got to show they can be functional for at least a year or two and they’ve got to meet all the criteria.

The only argument is that LIV need to change their criteria to meet the OWGR guidelines. Either they’ve arrogantly told their players they’ll get points, or they know they’re not going to get them, but they’ve decided on this Trumpian tactic where if they shout and cry about it enough, people will do their arguing for them.

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‘The longer you prolong, the more the rankings become completely meaningless’

It seems completely undemocratic, says George Cooper, but I’ve had enough. Stop delaying the inevitable.

We’re now at a stand off, and it’s only going to get messier. The longer you prolong the process, the more animosity will be created, the more events will be damaged, and the more the rankings become completely meaningless and inaccurate.

I get that LIV are failing to meet several criterion, but these elements are only ‘guidelines’, so surely they should be amended to accomodate what’s now the second best tour in the world? We’re not talking about any old feeder league here. LIV Golf has 12 major winners in their arsenal.

And why does it take one to two years to process? What are they doing down at Wentworth HQ!

The system is already flawed and we haven’t even got to the real damage yet. Regardless if that’s LIV’s own self-doing, the world rankings are no longer an accurate representation of who the best players are, and that’s a big problem.

You can listen to Alex and George argue more about LIV vs OWGR – as well as a number of other topics along a similar line – on The Slam podcast. Click the button below, or tune in on your favourite pod platform. Remember to let us know how you feel on the matter by tweeting us @NCG_com.

George Cooper

A golf fanatic his entire life, George Cooper is NCG's man for all goings-on at the top level of the game, whether it's the PGA Tour, DP World Tour, LPGA or LIV Golf. He also looks after NCG's Twitter and Facebook accounts. George is a member of Woburn, but is not friends with Ian Poulter.

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Alex Perry


Alex has been the editor of National Club Golfer since 2017. A Devonian who enjoys wittering on about his south west roots, Alex moved north to join NCG after more than a decade in London, the last five of which were with ESPN. Away from golf, Alex follows Torquay United and spends too much time playing his PlayStation or his guitar and not enough time practising his short game.

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